Comments on: Psalm 2

By: Toby

Toby — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 09:36:41 +0000

Hi Jenny, numeraries spending time their families, attending family occasions and looking after their elderly has only been a recent development in Opus Dei. There are many many numeraries who have have not been able to attend their parents, siblings & grand parents funerals, not to mention weddings & baptisms. No it is not written that they should not attend but it is considered bad spirit to so ‘attached’ to your family and to spend the money to attend – no wonder numeraries soon become family outcasts with only the Opus Dei to turn to.
Very valid point re. who is running this blog – who are you and why are you doing this – it’s just about like a covert Opus Dei operation …..Cheers, Toby

By: Toby

Toby — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 09:14:30 +0000

Hi Alan – sorry to be blunt but I need to, if you have been a member for 10 years (I’m guessing supernumery) and they let you go ‘happily’ it’s because you didn’t get it! They are keeping you good for your wife and who you know mate. Don’t let your precious faith be contaminated! Toby

By: drake

drake — Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:35:13 +0000

Thanks, Yves.

The purpose of this blog is precisely to show that what is said is not always what is done. The fact is that members spend more time reading and using the founder’s writings than they do the Bible.

By: yves

yves — Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:59:59 +0000

Drake,

You said: “nor are they encouraged to recite or pray on any other of the Bible’s 150 Psalms.”

The Way 86: “How I would like to see you using the psalms and prayers from the missal, rather than private prayers of your own choice.”

By: Alan Robinson

Alan Robinson — Sat, 28 Apr 2007 19:14:56 +0000

An interesting blog….. I was a member of Opus for ten years,I had known it for ten years before joining. I left two years ago, very happily and agreeably.I am now a co-operator. My wife a SuperN.
Ps.2 – I was told that I should and could use all the Psalms for meditation, especially those used in the Daily Mass.

Secrecy – I wish that you wouldn’t use this term. There have been booklets available for years about The Norms – I knew what i was joining,no problem. Most societies,groups have “private” documents – I have had plenty in my time as a teacher. It seems a modern idea that we are entitled to know everything about everything. Who really wants to read Opud Dei internal publications _ they are all fairly boring and really internal.I used to look at the pics.
I have tried to “dialogue” with many anti-Opus Dei people who have a lot of arguments and questions.Sadly, I have often found many of them very insincere and when I have offered to give them a real answer and to tell them what it’s like “inside” they just don’t seem interested.
Most ex- people are not too reliable [am I ???] – talk to an ex- husband, ex-priest, ex-teacher.
Anyway do e mail me with questions,but I don’t think you want and alternative version of your story : Alan Robinson

REPLY:

Very few members have access to the numerous “internal” publications, let alone know of their existence (whence our use of the word “secret”).

The “contract” by which one joins the institution is worded in broad terms (see the entry “The membership contract” on this blog). The institution itself claims that the members’ “formation” occurs along “an inclined plane”, in other words, bit by bit. Therefore, no one has a clear understanding of the breadth and depth of the commitment to the institution BEFORE one joins. This constitutes uninformed consent. The claim that people do not “really” join until five years thereafter is legalese that “makes sense” only from within and to which no common person can relate.

By: Jenny Roman

Jenny Roman — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:48:10 +0000

I just left a comment but I also tried to find out more about who’s running this blog…but I can’t find any real information (?) I guess what I wanted to say is that I’m sorry you had a bad 20 years in Opus Dei. I’ve had friends who joined and then left, but with no bad feeling at all… I guess every person has to live his/her own story. But I don’t think you’re being fair when you exaggerate things, e.g. members have little or no time to be with their families. Then how come some numeraries I know just spent a week with their fam? So, I think you’re misleading people. Just a thought since I’m assuming you’re still a Catholic at least… Anyway, just my 2 cents. Maybe you won’t let this comment get on the blog, but I just wanted to send it to whoever the moderator is. So if only you read it, that’s all I wanted to do. Cheers & God bless ya!